i got a question on vaccines and autism?

in journalism we were talking about kids who dont vaccinate their kids. is it true that vaccines gives kids autism? im 15 and the only shot i wont get is the flu shot but im perfectly fine and dont think shots have affected me any.

There is no concrete evidence that says vaccines cause autism. If there was then the federal courts would not have made a ruling. Many associate the MMR vaccine with autism, but little do people realize that the MMR vaccine is given around the same time the typical characteristics of autism become noticeable, many had characteristics at an earlier age but were not recognized, many think there child was just slow and would grow out of it. Many also associate thimerosal (mercury additive) in other vaccines as to causing autism, but yet you never heard about if the mother ate fish such as tuna that is known to have high mercury content while pregnant, or perhaps the mother had mercury fillings in her teeth that could of been absorbed into the system while pregnant. If people look at thimerosal as a possible cause then why hasn’t everything with mercury been considered, how many cases of research have you heard in regards to those. Thimerosal hasn’t been in vaccines since 1991 except the flu vaccine which you can get with or without thimerosal. Granted some vaccines with thimerosal were still given after they began the removal of it until the supply was gone, wouldn’t the cases of autism being diagnosed go down because of no longer using thimerosal. If you do some research, there was a Dr. who started the whole theory about the MMR vaccine issue who was later found to be discredited. (**edit: **Dr. Andrew Wakefield is the doctor who associated the MMR vaccine as to causing autism in a report released in 1998 and published in The Lancelot, it was later found that he fixed the results and most of those children in the research had signs of autism documented in their medical records before they recieved the MMR shot. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5683671.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5683643.ece end edit **)
My son was diagnosed with autism before receiving his MMR shots, he has had both doses since and his autism did not get any worse, my 2 older sons had their doses and neither of them have autism or any other condition. Bottom line is no one can say 100% for sure what the cause is regardless of what they believe. You’ll find just as many parents who strongly believe vaccines did not cause autism in their child as you would those parents who do believe it did. You know you never heard to much about the vaccine issue until Jenny McCarthy opened her mouth, I feel many parents just jumped on the bandwagon. She use to also say that autism can be cured but changed it to that they can recover, it cannot be cured, it is a life long disability but with proper treatments and the earlier they receive them, the better chance they have to overcome many of their characteristics. For example, I know these are not the same but am using it to demostrate a point…someone is found to be diabetic, they change their diet to control their blood sugar level, they take insuline to prevent diabetic seizures and also to help control their blood sugar level, just because they may never have a diabetic seizure and their blood sugar level remains under control does not mean their diabetes is cured. In many cases you would not even realize they had diabetes unless they stated that they did. Same goes with autism, even though they receive treatments and characteristics improve and some even disappear does not mean the autism is no longer there. Another example would be asperger’s which is a form of autism sometimes known as high functioning autism, to those not familiar with the characteristics of asperger’s they appear to be normal and to some above normal because they usually are very intelligent and have very high iq’s, just because they appear to be normal or above normal doesn’t mean they don’t have asperger’s.

7 Responses

  1. Nuclearbutter Says:

    Vaccines are linked to almost all diseases and serious health problems.
    The modern medical community has no clue what real health is or how to prevent it so they stab with needles and slice with knives at everything.
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  2. lalala Says:

    No. The reason that it seems like vaccines give children autism is because as the rate of vaccines being given has increased so has the rate of children being diagnosed with autism. HOWEVER, the only reason more children are being diagnosed with autism now is because before, children who had autism were just diagnosed with mental retardation. New medical advances have allowed for doctors to make more accurate diagnoses, therefore increasing the rate of children with autism. It is just a coincidence that the two have increased at the same rate.
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  3. Stephanie Says:

    It all depends on who you ask about vaccines and autism. Just recently a federal court ruled that there is no scientific proof that autism is linked to vaccines. Still there are many parents out there who believe it is.

    Personally, I think the risks of not vaccinating are something not to be taken lightly.
    References :
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/02/12/court.autism.reactions/

  4. Mom *of* 3 boys Says:

    I’ve done a lot of research on this. My cousin has 4 children. 3 of them have various stages of autism. ALL of her children get ALL of the "recommended" and "required" shots. There are also genetic things, but in my opinion, given the research that I have done, the vaccines either cause the autism or they trigger what is already genetically there.

    1. Links concerning Vaccinations:

    National Vaccine Information Center (a good, all-purpose site with tons of information – NOT funded by the drug companies):
    http://www.nvic.org/

    http://www.healingdaily.com/conditions/vaccination.htm

    http://www.know-vaccines.org/autism.html

    http://www.whale.to/vaccines/vax_autism_q.html

    2. Links of vaccination books:
    http://www.amazon.com/Vaccinations-Thoughtful-Sensible-Decisions-Alternatives/dp/0892819316

    http://www.amazon.com/What-Doctor-About-Childrens-Vaccinations/dp/0446677078

    By the way – we don’t get the flu shot either. They don’t even know which strain is going to be infecting people, so it’s just a guessing game anyway. It’s got to be one of the most useless shots they’ve made. Also, I’ve heard of several people coming down w/ the flu after etting the shot.

    Be very thankful that you are "perfectly fine" and that the vaccines haven’t affected you. That is a blessing, but not an argument that the vaccines do not cause averse affects. If it affected everyone that way, it would be obvious what the cause is and they would have no choice but to quit using the vaccines as they are currently manufactured.

    Another thing to note is that many of the "studies" drug companies do on vaccines are ONLY on the vaccine being studies. Children/babies who receive vaccines receive MANY at one time. To my knowledge, they do not do a study on the vaccine given ALONG WITH all the other shots the child/baby would be receiving at that time to see what the combined effect would be. How do they know that it isn’t the COMBINATION of so many vaccines causing the problem? They do not know. They just test one vaccine by itself and they give it, along with several others.
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  5. crazyowl Says:

    Some studies have seemed to show a link between the MMR vaccine given to babies and an increase risk of autism, but other studies show no such link. Unfortunately this gives rise to people not vaccinating their children often in the mistaken belief that these illnesses are only childhood infections and nothing to worry about, which is not true.
    MEASLES complications can include diarrhea, corneal scarring and encephalitis(Inflammation of the brain) and it can kill about 3 in 1000 children more in poorer countries and in adults it may be worse.
    MUMPS the most common complication is inflammation of the testicles (can lead to infertility)/ inflammation of breasts and genitals in girls who have reached puberty encephalitis and meningitis In pregnant women can cause miscarriage especially in the first three months
    RUBELLA complications include miscarriage and rubella congenital syndrome
    Unfortunately as fewer people are having their babies vaccinated these diseases are becoming nearly epidemic again in certain areas
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    Retired nurse

  6. Heidi N Says:

    All this stuff about studies and personal theories or repeating what you heard in the news is junk. My children no longer have autism. While all the denials and deceit are flying around due to greed, thousands are being recovered from autism and gobs of other diagnoses supposedly untreatable and unreversible. You can’t just repeat what sounds good in your head. Just like the show CSI, you need to gather evidence to make a proper explanation. In the case of autism, let’s look at what we know: thousands have been recovered; there are doctors all over the U.S. who are doing this by treating for pathogens and toxins (go to the autism forums to find them); much of the way they reverse autism is by treating for the same pathogens and toxins found in vaccines; these same pathogens and toxins can be obtained via sex, transferred in pregancy and from the environment (pets, foods, etc.). What is not konwn is how much vaccines play a role. But, if these doctors are reversing autism by treating children for measles from the vaccines, and mercury from either vaccines, fish, corn syrup or other food, air, dental fillings, and who knows what/where else, than it looks strongly like vaccines do play a role.

    Bottom line is, these doctors know the most since they are reversing autism. You can find them on autism forums or google DAN doctors. Some are not DAN doctors, but homeopaths, naturopaths, chiropractors and others who decided to concentrate on autism treatment. You can also go to http://www.generationrescue.org to find doctors in your area who know that autism is caused by pathogens and toxins. I think that the general consensus among them is that vaccines stress the immune system in such a way that it no longer shows a sick response, and so one does not show signs of illness, but rather dysfunction. This dysfunction is varying symptoms in walking, talking, concentrating, or acting oddly. The senses are also involved.

    Ok, this may be more than what a 15 year old wants to know. But let me give you a tip on learning. Get you knowledge from the right source. In the case of autism, you will hear a bunch of conflicting reports. Do not believe anyone because they have a degree. Believe those who have actually rid autism. They are the ones who know. My children no longer have autism and part of the way it is done is by ridding the effects of the vaccines, and the ingredients in them from their bodies. This, alone, is not all that is done. Just know that vaccines could be great. They just currently need an overhaul. The reasons vaccines are failing us, is because the vaccine manufacturers are protected by the government from getting into trouble. Whenever one does not have to be held accountale, they are liable to do things very differently than if they could be held accountable. What would you be like if no matter what you did, you could not go to jail? Thus, I feel vaccines could be done better and safer, but it’s just plain unrealistic to expect people to do the right thing if they can not be held accountable. I mean really, how many people would pay taxes if there was no IRS.
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  7. helpnout Says:

    There is no concrete evidence that says vaccines cause autism. If there was then the federal courts would not have made a ruling. Many associate the MMR vaccine with autism, but little do people realize that the MMR vaccine is given around the same time the typical characteristics of autism become noticeable, many had characteristics at an earlier age but were not recognized, many think there child was just slow and would grow out of it. Many also associate thimerosal (mercury additive) in other vaccines as to causing autism, but yet you never heard about if the mother ate fish such as tuna that is known to have high mercury content while pregnant, or perhaps the mother had mercury fillings in her teeth that could of been absorbed into the system while pregnant. If people look at thimerosal as a possible cause then why hasn’t everything with mercury been considered, how many cases of research have you heard in regards to those. Thimerosal hasn’t been in vaccines since 1991 except the flu vaccine which you can get with or without thimerosal. Granted some vaccines with thimerosal were still given after they began the removal of it until the supply was gone, wouldn’t the cases of autism being diagnosed go down because of no longer using thimerosal. If you do some research, there was a Dr. who started the whole theory about the MMR vaccine issue who was later found to be discredited. (**edit: **Dr. Andrew Wakefield is the doctor who associated the MMR vaccine as to causing autism in a report released in 1998 and published in The Lancelot, it was later found that he fixed the results and most of those children in the research had signs of autism documented in their medical records before they recieved the MMR shot. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5683671.ece
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5683643.ece end edit **)
    My son was diagnosed with autism before receiving his MMR shots, he has had both doses since and his autism did not get any worse, my 2 older sons had their doses and neither of them have autism or any other condition. Bottom line is no one can say 100% for sure what the cause is regardless of what they believe. You’ll find just as many parents who strongly believe vaccines did not cause autism in their child as you would those parents who do believe it did. You know you never heard to much about the vaccine issue until Jenny McCarthy opened her mouth, I feel many parents just jumped on the bandwagon. She use to also say that autism can be cured but changed it to that they can recover, it cannot be cured, it is a life long disability but with proper treatments and the earlier they receive them, the better chance they have to overcome many of their characteristics. For example, I know these are not the same but am using it to demostrate a point…someone is found to be diabetic, they change their diet to control their blood sugar level, they take insuline to prevent diabetic seizures and also to help control their blood sugar level, just because they may never have a diabetic seizure and their blood sugar level remains under control does not mean their diabetes is cured. In many cases you would not even realize they had diabetes unless they stated that they did. Same goes with autism, even though they receive treatments and characteristics improve and some even disappear does not mean the autism is no longer there. Another example would be asperger’s which is a form of autism sometimes known as high functioning autism, to those not familiar with the characteristics of asperger’s they appear to be normal and to some above normal because they usually are very intelligent and have very high iq’s, just because they appear to be normal or above normal doesn’t mean they don’t have asperger’s.
    References :

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